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IP: What does it mean to you?

Hello friendly readers! This is your neighborhood Mad Scientist dashing in to say that we need your data.

We here at the Mad Genii are gearing up to do a series on intellectual property, what it means, how to deal with it, and etcetera. We’d like your input as to what you’d like to see us cover, and what you already know, so we don’t go over old ground again.

Thanks very much!

Whoops… lab coat, check, steel toed shoes, check, where’s my hard hat? Gotta run before something gets a little, ah, shall we say energetic in the lab?

 

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  1. ‘Intellectual property’ is the phrase used to describe the class of ideas that are given legal protection to encourage future production. In many areas, in desperate need of a reality check on how long one can monopolize an idea, and to what extent, because right now it’s at the point where money wins, instead of the entire point of the law.

    September 24, 2019
    • John Donigan #

      +1

      September 24, 2019
    • Evenstar #

      cough *Disney* cough

      September 24, 2019
      • It’s also pretty standard for Games Workshop and various patent-trolls.

        September 24, 2019
    • Harry #

      Err… No… The existence of the Disney Millenium Copyright Act & all the laws and treaty’s passed to make certain it applies to everyone everywhere means that since it was passed “the entire point of the law” is exactly, and entirely that “money wins”.

      Even if that’s not what the people in charge are willing to admit to.

      (Hmm… are those old DeCSS code t-shirts still a criminal offence?)

      September 24, 2019
      • Except that act, and any treaties, aren’t the law in question.

        They’re supposedly in support of the law, but the point of the law is to give a limited monopoly to encourage future creation.

        My favorite counter argument is that because the stuff is not that important, it should be an unlimited monopoly…when that would, logically, mean that it’s unimportant so we shouldn’t bother with protecting it at all.

        September 24, 2019
        • One social commentator said that J. K Rowling should not be allowed to do anything more with harry Potter because it was too important to society and the culture at large. In other words, once a work becomes too popular, the author should lose copyright to “society.”

          That went over with a resounding thud.

          September 24, 2019
          • *snort* Yeah, that’s nonsense on stilts.

            September 24, 2019
          • Zsuzsa #

            Admittedly, while as a legal matter it’s nonsense on stilts, I do feel about the post Book 7 Potter canon much the way I feel about the non-original trilogy Star Wars. Legally, it belongs to the creator and not “society,” but it doesn’t stop me from wanting to shake Rowling/Lucas and say, “Stop! Just stop! Leave your masterpiece as it is, and don’t do anything to make it worse.”

            September 24, 2019
            • I must say “meh” to this one. JKR is free to write what she wants. I’m free to ignore it.

              September 24, 2019
            • Which is why we need Fix-it-Fic, and fanfic, and a limit on how long she can say nobody else can touch it.

              September 24, 2019
              • Mary #

                Eh, write original fiction that skirts the bounds of copyright.

                September 24, 2019
                • Or at least starts that way?

                  I was half a book into my daughter’s Wings of Fire book when I suddenly realized it had probably started as a “How to Train your Dragon” fanfic, from the dragon’s POV, which snowballed.

                  September 25, 2019
                  • Mary #

                    The further the better. . . which is why it is often better to start with a work that needed fixing.

                    September 25, 2019
            • Mary #

              Yes. Legal and aesthetic are not the same.

              September 24, 2019
  2. Reziac #

    [The Congress shall have the power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
    — Article I, Section 8, Clause 8.

    In the current legal interpretation, “limited” seems to have been changed to “all”.

    September 24, 2019
  3. Draven #

    So, one thing to be discussed would be the seven significant differences theory and how it works in real life..

    based on the discussion from the otehr day i guess we also need to discuss the history and current disposition on whether you can get DMCA’d if something ‘looks enough like’ someone’s copyrighted product.

    September 24, 2019
    • At what point does “random power armor/mecha” become Voltron™ or Gundam™? Yes, and that applies to other things as well.

      Plus: paintings and other works of art that should be in public domain, but that the owner holds photo-copyright to. Where do you find out who owns what? (Obviously, if you took a photo of the work and use that, it’s yours, if the work of art is out of copyright, but beyond that…)

      September 24, 2019
      • Draven #

        Also, forex, Sony owns the current sheet music arrangements of a great number of classical pieces…

        September 24, 2019
    • BobtheRegisterredFool #

      Possibly also copyrights to stuff like cocky and space marines?

      Re: mecha

      Super Robot Wars is a wonderful franchise. Some crazy awesome people got actual licensing to a series of fanfic games combining bunches and bunches of mecha properties. So, SRW W, for example, has Go-Lion, Gundam Wing, Full Metal Panic, Tekkaman Blade I and II, and a bunch more.

      September 24, 2019
      • Seems like, Japan’s anime guys have a LOT saner (ok, Fanboy) of an approach to their properties. Elf just found a game he had in high school that was basically Magic: the Gathering made entirely anime characters from wildly diverse animes, as best I can understand the description.

        September 24, 2019
      • And, of course, Final Fantasy is freaking famous for it’s crossovers.

        September 24, 2019
  4. Evenstar #

    I love Lord of the Rings and the Chronicles of Narnia and I am 99% completely uninterested in reading another person’s take on those works. But I also think they should both be public domain by now.

    September 24, 2019
  5. Being a non-lawyer . . . to me it means figuring out what limitations are on the license I’ve bought for art I want to use on a cover, and especially looking for a model release.

    September 24, 2019
    • Draven #

      model releases are yet another reason to use cg people

      September 24, 2019
      • Finding the right model, in the right pose – that is the headache for me. Why I don’t have people in my homemade covers…

        The Passive Voice had an interesting link the other day; a company that is developing an API into an “AI” that generates realist faces. I haven’t gone through the 100,000 faces they’ve made available for free, but if they eventually release it and it can rotate the face – I’ll really look into it. (Bodies are easy to find.)

        September 25, 2019

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