So, you want to go indie.
Good. It’s risky, and scary. But what isn’t? And at this point there is a path and a plan.
First, let’s look at this manuscript of yours. You’re going to publish it and put it before literally millions of people. This means you’re responsible for what those people will read. And how good it is.
Now the first thing, if you can, is to get betas to read it and give you their opinions.
… look, I know it’s not easy, okay? It’s not easy for me and I have fans. But people have lives and jobs, and are not on your schedule. Half the time when I send stuff to people to read, they … don’t read it in time. or at all. Sometimes I finally get an opinion (and one I must respect and fix up) when everything is about ready to go up. It’s … maddening. But these people are not on your schedule, and as such aren’t required to stop everything and read your book.
One of the things you definitely should know is that your betas answering or not doesn’t mean your book is great, or terrible. Look, these people aren’t reading your book for fun. They’re reading it to help (at least hopefully so) which means at some level they view it as work. So it’s not at all the same experience as someone who has bought your book for fun and intends to read it asap.
The other thing to remember, if you do get answers, is that unless more than one person stumbles on the same difficulty, it’s probably nothing. I’ve had people have the most absurd problems on beta reading, problems that would require me to rewrite the whole thing top to bottom, which I ignored because they made no sense (to me) or I simply didn’t know how to apply a fix without ditching the entire book. And also because ONLY ONE PERSON OUT OF TEN OR SO WHO ANSWERED had that problem. Guess what? When the book came out NO ONE complained about that one thing. Not a single person.
But what if no one answers?
Well, at this point I have assembled at editorial team. My first level, for “read and tell me if something just doesn’t make sense/doesn’t work is Laura Schroeder (aggrokitty@gmail.com). She’s affordable, professional and very, very thorough. She will tell you if you suddenly forgot one of you premises or didn’t follow something through. She is also amazing on telling you how NOT to sound like an AI. (Look, these days we’re all reading so much AI generated stuff that we’ve caught some of the cadences or worse some of its bad habits. of course, in my case it’s worse because the d*mn things were trained on my prose, which means some of their bad habits are MY bad habits. (there’s a bunch of us in this boat, too.) Anyway, she has seen enough of it to spot when “this sounds like AI” and she’ll clean it up.
Then there’s Deej, (iktapop@protonmail.com) my trusty structural editor. He’s really good at figuring out if your structure is doing what you want it, or if you forgot some essential movement or didn’t show your crucial scene or something. He’s not… cheap. But he’ll make sure the book you put out is the best it can be. (Note this doesn’t mean it will make you a fortune. We’ll get to that.) If you can afford him, he’s definitely worth it. How worth it? Well, his fixes for me are often of the “This scene needs to move there” or “Don’t name the character that. You’re giving away to much” BUT the thing is no one else tells me those fixes, and once he tells them it’s obvious they’re correct. And while they’re often very small things, they’re also often the most praised things afterwards. For his credentials it must suffice that he had three of edited books in the Prometheus finalists this year. (And two won. The third was mine. And I’ve covered that. While an excellent book, (NO, I do NOT say that about all my books, though I require “good” at a minimum) it was less overtly Libertarian than the adult category winner, and the Prometheus rewards both excellence and a Libertarian orientation.)
After those two get through it and give it a good drubbing, I then send it to my long-suffering copy editor (rhesagirl@gmail.com) whom I frankly don’t pay nearly enough (because I don’t make that kind of money.) I have this dream that I’ll make a bazillion dollars and she’ll just work for me, always ready to fix my absurd typos (look, it’s a lovely dream.) She’s affordable, as copy editors go. She’s also very good, and has never even accused me of writing things in Martian. In fact, the worst she does is tell me “I don’t understand this?” though she also is pretty good at telling me when I changed the ages, dates or whatever in my books, which honestly is my perennial issue.
Now, no, these people aren’t the only ones making a living making sure indie books are readable. they are, however, the ones I know and can vouch for. You might find an amazing editor I’ve never heard of. But there are also a lot of bad ones out there, so I figured I should give you somewhere to start with people I know.
However, I must tell you the best of helps with my writing so far is the chinchilla of hope gang. No, you can’t get in. You’ll have to find your own. We kind of came together organically. However, being able to post the book, chapter by chapter, as I write it, and getting people asking questions or interacting with the prose is invaluable.
It’s the closest I’ve come to my fanfic writing, when people would ask questions or react to the installment I’d just posted. And since it’s a stable group, I came to know these people, and know their personalities and whether they’re tripping on something real, or just something they misinterpreted. (Or something I KNEW they’d trip on.)
They’re invaluable. The price is… I have to read their stuff too. (Which is why you can’t get in. I can’t read everyone. I don’t have forever.) As they write it.
If you can get your own group, it’s the best thing in the world. Do I know how to do it?
I can give you a pointer: connect to other writers, talk to them. If you become friends, see if you can get together and start writing and sharing chapters, chapter by chapter. Who knows? you might get lucky.
So, after all this, when you have a manuscript all ready, what do you do with it.
First, get a cover.
And that is a subject all its own.
Let’s talk about it next week.




6 responses to “First Clean Up Your Act”
Interesting timing on this post.
Most of the time I am “content” to stay in my kiddie pool, but every once in a while, like yesterday, something blows across the ashes of that old dream and I peek out – usually just long enough to remind myself why I stick to my blog and fanfiction.
You mentioned not sounding like an AI. I know that is a hot button topic on reddit, with some holding the position that if AI even got a look at the work, you are evil while some hold that it is a tool, used carefully it can help.
I am one of the latter. As I told someone in one fanfic group, If you want to improve, maybe with an eye towards a bigger stage, you need feedback. Not everyone has a beta reader. Some of us live in a near vacuum, either we work in a dying fandom or have no friends with which to share our work. (Or in my case, both.)
“connect to other writers, talk to them”
People terrify me. I’ve spent 51 of my 62 years trying. Yeah, I’m the one who always says the wrong thing.
Which is one reason why I started using various ai/llm to do the alpha reads on the stuff I put on blog. Not necessarily to replace living breathing people, but as a first pass when I otherwise have no feedback at all. For me at least, its helped a little.
This is my approach as well. I personally feel like the llms are most useful at the alpha reader and copyeditor stages of dealing with a completed manuscript, although using them for a sounding board early on can help with some of the things that a developmental or structural editor would need to catch. And of course, they’ve largely changed the calculus of getting covers done.
Sarah, I’d like to say this about beta readers: I beta-read for a couple of Alma’s series, and every time, it’s because she put up a notice, and I volunteered. To me, that makes itt an obligation to read and respond, or at least respond to tell her why I can’t do it this time around.
If you aren’t going to do the job, don’t volunteer. YMMV.
I tend to only beta read for people I know on Discord who write shortish works and ask for help when I know I have an open weekend or so. I did once tell someone “look, this is a busy time of year for me, but if you still need someone in 2-3 weeks, DM me.”
A few addenda to the bit about me:
No, I am not cheap. As Sarah pointed out, I edited three of the five finalists for the Prometheus this year, and two of them won. Just on that, I had to up my quote, because sooner or later there’s a flood of requests that follow that.
But also, I can be flexible on my quote. I’ve worked with a number of first-time novelists and, depending on other factors, am happy to give a discount to help you launch. (Other factors include: is it a genre I’m comfortable editing? Do I like the premise? Never hire an editor who doesn’t answer yes to both of those, at minimum, BTW.) Also, while I’ve not yet had anybody take me up on this one, my standing policy is to give a 20% discount to any client who pays in one of a few select cryptocurrencies.
And sooner or later, I’ll have a website up to point to.
Looks at shoes, shuffles, and raises hand. Sorry, I was a beta reader for one of Alma’s books, but my responses were probably useless because it was like book 13 in the Familiar series and I hadn’t read the others. For No Man’s Land, I…, just bogged down. You did a great job of showing the implications of a completely hermaphroditic culture, but it was so foreign to me, that I couldn’t comprehend it (worse than Skip).
I try to make it easy for my beta readers by asking them to respond to only three things.
With that I try to get to their experience as a reader and let them know it’s not their job to be an editor. Also that’s to make the job low effort for them.
Thanks for the references though. Based on the mistakes I’ve caught myself doing already, I’m pretty sure I’m going to need an affordable professional editor for the novel I’m working on (or will be again once I get my housing situation straightened out).