The gang’s not all here

Just a quick note and a promise for the posting schedule to return to normal tomorrow. Sarah, Cedar and I think about half the known science fiction world — not really, but it sounds cool — are at LibertyCon this weekend. Hence the lack of posts. Things will get back to normal in the morning, or at least as normal as they ever are here.

In the meantime, here’s your chance to request topics, talk about the industry etc. In the meantime, have a wonderful rest of the weekend.


  1. “Sarah, Cedar and I think about half the known science fiction world — not really, but it sounds cool — are at LibertyCon this weekend.” Yeah. Thpppppbth. 😛 That’s OK, I’m fine with being home. Really. Getting a lot of work done. Yeah.
    Glad y’all are having fun.

    1. Wish I could be home. Mandatory overtime for the second weekend in a row. Saturday AND Sunday. How will I get any writing done?

  2. Might be a good time to ask. In the last couple of months, I read an article about feminine heros, and now I am unable to find it. I think it was one of those ‘Top X’ list things. The main point was that these heros are not simply female, not particularly feminist, but both heroic and feminine in a way that a sword-swinging body-building woman would not be.
    Anyone else read it and maybe able to find it again?

    1. Ha- got mine in almost a month ago. That just means I have a longer wait for the result that ‘ the winner is- anyone except robfornow!’
      David: you might look at John C. Wright’s blog. He wrote a strong serious article describing the attributes of a female warrior hero. Quite a few blogs commented on it a couple of months ago. You might check his archives.

      1. Rob, thanks, I will. But the main thrust of this article was that a female warrior is not feminine, but a female competing in a masculine manner. I found it interesting at the time, but don’t remember enough now, and want to explore the concept further.

        1. On the face of it, that seems … well, I’ll just say “untenable.” I expect their logic is going to be twisty. “That woman, the one with the muscles and the sharp steel bar is unfeminine. Because women don’t get to choose what they want to do and still be considered real women.” That said, I hope the writer didn’t go that direction. I’m just not sure what direction one could go and form a cogent argument out of it.

      2. Did anyone get any kind of confirmation message after sending it in? I did not, and I was having network problems when I sent it. My big fear is it wasn’t received properly.

      1. Alas, it’s not to be.

        I have 24 hours and this story is still a mess in places. It needs another week, and I don’t have that. Reluctantly I have to admit that this is in no shape to be submitted. It hurts, but I know my limits, and I’ve just reached them. Between work and visiting my mom in hospital, I’m just too worn out to continue.

        At least I have a fairly longish (6500 word) story I can polish for future use. I’m just devastated that I won’t be submitting it to Baen this time. 😦

        1. Bummer, I can relate, mine only makes me want to use it as an introduction in the novel to follow. I don’t mind the fact that it will only be fodder; because, I’m sure there’s better writers than me. However, if one looks to the future, there may be a best seller in the making. So release the muse and build something that will make Larry give you standing room on the porch.
          David: I think that was John’s point. He writes above my head sometimes, well, most …But, he was speaking of the necessity to achieve and still retain the illusion of femininity or such.

        2. I decided I’d stop working on it almost a week ago.

          I’d some business I’d deferred come up as a much higher priority. I’d planned to get to it after the contest, but when somethings on fire, you’ve got to put it out, and it capped the arch of messes that put me in the wrong frame of mind to care about my creative writing.

          I finished a rough draft of as many stories as I had done earlier in the year. I came close enough to tripling rather than doubling my output. I learned a lot. Next step is finish more stories, write more stories, and look into seeing if I can do something with a longer formula.

          After my brains stop leaking from my ears, and I get some things settled.

    2. Yeah, what was going to by my entry turned into the intro for (at least) a novella.
      From Poe’s every word aimed at a single effect, to “I must answer at least some of the questions I’ve raised” in a handful of pages. Darned glad I’m under no obligation to write to spec.

  3. kilteDave – No so much in the direction of your fears. More that the sword-swinging muscle-babe is in actuality unlikely to the point of uniqueness (there are real physical differences between the genders) and acting on motivations and using methods that make her (to put it indelicately) a man with boobs. You could change the character’s gender and nobody would notice. So the article was exploring an alternative, which I am finding more and more intriguing as I think about.

    robfornow – Thank you for the pointer to John C Wright. His 6 part (!!) series titled ‘Saving Science Fiction from Strong Female Characters’ from November last is hitting the similar theme so far, and in greater depth. In spite of the provocative title, I am getting some really good ideas here of how to present that mysterious other (a woman) in a way true to the original, interesting to a reader, and obviously heroic.

    The working theory right now is (to give an example) that both Leia Organa and Clarissa MacDougall are heroines, but Clarissa is by far the more feminine of the two.

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