Yesterday someone came to my blog to tell me he had finished his first novel but before he committed himself to keep writing and improving is there some way he can tell if he has talent.

This happens every so often, and it always brings a snarling response in me, which might be less useful than it could be.

For the purposes of this exercise you should imagine me as a curmudgeonly 70 year old guy, wearing a suit and a smashed-down fedora, taking a chewed-out cigar from my mouth and snarling “What talent, kid? There ain’t no talent.”

But the truth is that this is both right…. and wrong.

It is true that there ain’t such a thing as “novel writing talent” or “short story writing talent.”

But it’s also true that no two humans are alike, and in mental disciplines as in physical ones, we all have “gifts” we get for free. For instance, my mom is good with balance and coordination. She could never understand why I couldn’t skip rope at first try. Or ride a bicycle. In fact if I hadn’t been the second of her kids to disappoint her this way, it would have been rough. But for both my brother and I these things were — still are, with me in my sixties and him in his seventies — unobtanium.

Or take my husband: he’s mathematically, visually and spatially gifted. I can do the math, though I need a head start, because I’m out of practice, but I have NO visual memory and absolutely no sense of direction. The first years of our marriage, he thought I kept moving things in the cupboards to gaslight him and not because I couldn’t remember where things went. He still periodically comes to me and asks “Why did you change where the pitcher goes?” and is befuddled when I say “Did I?”

At the same time, I have a gift for words. I very rarely have to look a word up (though my spelling is interesting) and I usually say precisely what I want to. I had to get used to the idea that he sometimes uses the wrong word and that doesn’t make him stupid. It’s just he doesn’t think in words. I do.

So, in writing, some people are better at words, some are better at story telling beats, some are better at characters, some are better at plot.

None of these, by themselves, is sufficient to be a “writing talent.”

If, like me, you came up through school with your English (eh, Portuguese, in my case) teachers laying a carpet of rose petals for you to walk upon and telling you that you’re such a good writer and you’ll be a great ornament to (eh, Portuguese) letters someday, chances are your primary gift is the same as mine: words.

This is what the lay person interprets as “great writing.” Your grammar will be perfect (most of the time, if you account for the fact that, say, these posts are written in colloquial mode) and your imagery poetic, and you can hide a lot of weakness under the great turn of phrase. The man on the street sees the words, is dazzled and says “Wow, you write beautifully.”

You do. And if you’re doing poetry or even essays, this can carry it. Even in short stories, if you dance fast enough no one will see the wires beneath.

The writer par excellence of those who run on a word talent is Ray Bradbury, and note most of his writing is short stories. But even he, from what I understand from Heinlein’s occasional veiled snark, had to learn the other components of writing. Before that he had pretty words over nothing.

I know that feeling, because it’s how I started. And you’d finish my short shorts with the idea that something momentous had been narrated, but underneath there really was nothing. And you can’t write novels or even fully functional short stories on nothing.

Words is the most common gift or at least the one people talk about the most, but I think that’s just because the people who are told they have talent usually have word talent.

It’s also the most useless.

Oh, I also have characters for free. I get my characters fully formed, alive, sweating and bleeding. Which is great. I’m not looking down on it.

The problem is that characters by themselves cannot live on the page. It’s like keeping a pet goldfish when you don’t have any water. To describe a character and let them live and breathe, you need a plot, a situation, problems for him/her to test himself against. Barring that, you have nothing.

Now I hinted at other gifts. Some people are naturally gifted at plot. They will create riveting stories out of the most trivial circumstances.

Others have the ability to carry the story in a narrative voice so strong and assured that it’s days after you closed the book that you go “but that didn’t make any sense” or “But that’s impossible.”

Edgar Rice Burroughs had narrative voice and plot, and on those two he built an empire.

Heinlein had such a strong narrative voice it took me years and careful analysis to realize he does actually have a lot of exposition and “narrative in the character’s head” in passages I remembered as non stop action.

So, do you have talent?

Undoubtedly you have one of the talents above, or perhaps another I’ve never thought of, such as the talent to make the most outlandish things seem plausible or… who knows?

You can have a talent in any of a few of the elements that go into making a story a story.

I was about to say I never met anyone that had a talent for all of them, but that’s a lie. I met one. He never finished his novel.

The rest of us get one or two, and sweat and slave for the others. And let me disabuse you, right now, words is the least important of them and often is counterproductive because you get distracted chasing words and lose track of the action and character. In fact, it’s the hardest because your beta readers are more likely to respond to words than anything else, so they might not catch what you’re doing wrong.

However, some of the writers I know who are now bestsellers started with no talent. You work at it and you improve. Slowly. Sometimes painfully.

I made every possible mistake. Twice.

This is where a writers’ group can help. Unless it hurts. A good writers’ group with people who are aware of what writing needs will save you years of struggling in the dark. A bad one will snuff out your writing.

In the end the only critic you can listen to is you. You’re in a fight with yourself.

Anyway, it’s easier to assume there is no such thing as talent. You’re going to have to learn to tell stories the hard way, step by step.

I don’t get a kickback from this, but you need Dwight Swain. You need Dwight Swain in your life:

Techniques of the Selling Writer

Creating Characters: How to Build Story People

And there’s audio if you prefer it. Be aware he swears a lot.

Will it help you? Well, I have read hundreds of how to write books, and sometimes gleaned a kernel or two I needed from them, But Techniques took me from unpublished to selling everything I wrote. And then it did the same for my then 13 year old son, and my husband. It’s also one of those books that if I re-read it now (I’m about due) I find new things to learn and perfect.

So, do you have talent? I don’t know. And neither do you. And even if you did have one of the writing talents you probably lack the others.

How do you become a good writer: Like Juan Valdez, one bean at a time.

I was going to say all I can promise you is toil sweat and tears, but that’s not true. Once you get about halfway good, and you look at the thing you made, and other people see things in it that are undoubtedly there but you didn’t think you’d put in? Once you see the story, in its shining perfection, pulled from your head, living and breathing on its own?

There is nothing like that feeling. Nothing. It partakes the glory of Creation and puts you in a very small club.

So? Get going. Work, work, work. Get good.

I believe in you.

7 responses to “Measuring Talent”

  1. I read Swain years ago on your recommendation, Sarah, and he helped so much. He provides true nuts and bolts.

    The only other craft book that was as useful to me was Brody’s Save the Cat Writes a Novel for structure. Yes, you can structure your story differently, but knowing this structure helps you spot the variations on it. I was reading Dick Francis’s Nerve, and noticed he had the Dark Night of the Soul super early. It was great. Also, he’s Dick Francis. Brody explains things super clearly, has little diagrams, and gives examples galore. By the time you’re done reading, you get it.

  2. I was pretty certain that I was at least an OK writer, although I never had any delusions about producing the Great American Literary Novel — but I produced written materiel for years as a military public affairs troop: everything from comic spots, to performance reports, to instructions and news releases. I really didn’t start getting validation and encouragement until after I had been blogging for a while, and readers, and other bloggers kept saying — hey, you write good stuff! When are you doing a book. So, by the time I did a book, and then another, and another — I was pretty certain of an approving audience out there…

  3. Style is good. If you look at what gets published, you will find that competent workman-like prose is the baseline with the rarest of exceptions.

    Style is, as our Tom Simon so sagely observed, the rocket. It must be sufficient to carry the payload. But you need a payload.

  4. It’s funny, I just had this conversation with an old friend of mine over the weekend. Friend said they had a story or two they had wanted to write for a long time, and they weren’t sure of how to do it. They weren’t getting any useful feedback from publishers you see, just rejections.

    And I, being me, laughed loudly. Friend was getting rejections? That’s more than I ever got from publishers, and I’ve got 12 books sitting on my hard drive, 4 in print.

    So I after I stopped laughing I told friend the following:

    First, I have a genuine Real Writer License from Sarah Hoyt. It certifies that I am a For Real writer. I downloaded it off the Interwebz and that’s all the certification anybody is ever going to get.

    Second, once upon a time when I mentioned I wanted to self-publish a thing I wrote and how many copies of things did one usually sell, I was told by the late Kathy Shaidle, a ‘Genuine Writer’ that I would have dozens of sales. She also told me that it didn’t matter and I should do it anyway, because what the hell.

    Third, It’s YOUR BOOK. You write it FOR YOURSELF FIRST. You’re allowed to do whatever you want. The publishers are not going to buy it, for sure, because they never do. J.K. Rowling herself was a lucky break away from never seeing print, as I understand the story. It was a fluke.

    Fourth, and finally, those IDIOTS don’t know what they’re doing. The proof is sales numbers. Big Publishing is living off their back-catalog of old hits from the 80s and earlier. They have a few dozen whales that bring in all the revenue, and nothing else they do sells. Canadian example, I am told that a Canadian Best Seller!!! with push and publisher support is 5000 copies. You do 5K, you get the Best Seller! sticker. Yay.

    If that’s not proof of egregious incompetence, nothing is.

    So write the story YOU want to write, and don’t worry about it.

  5. Robert Sawyer has a talent for making impossible worldbuilding feel real while you’re reading it. In his Neanderthal Parallax trilogy, he created a world of high tech and low population densities, and a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, and it’s only when I set the books down and do something else that I try to figure out how it could work and go nope, there’s no way to get through the precursor stages without some form of agriculture, even if it’s just ranching and some gardening.

  6. Russ Fletcher Avatar
    Russ Fletcher

    Thanks for this post and the thoughtful replies. Here is why I reached out originally…

    Twenty-or-so years ago, near the beginning of the blogosphere, I regularly enjoyed posts from a blogger named “Rachel Lucas.” She was snarky and her writing seemed to jump along happily on the screen and her commenters were brilliant. One of her commenters stood out, so Rachel reached out to him and helped him start his own blog.

    His name is Bill Whittle.

    If you know Bill’s work, it stands as a paragon of conservative thought, and you should really get his book, Silent America. Today his voice continues to be shared loud and clear, mostly via video. But he needed a little push from Rachel Lucas for him to share his genius with the world.

    I am writing my first novel at 59 years old. I am writing it because it has been rattling around in my brain for decades, begging me to put it on paper/screen. I will finish it because I love it. But I don’t know, like Bill didn’t and so many don’t, if my voice as shared through my characters, is worth sharing.

    So I reached out to Sarah and several others whose Internet writings I enjoy to essentially troll them for advice, and see if they would read a chapter or two…

    …to see if I have any ‘talent.’

    I am grateful that I got not only a reply but a beautiful post full of insight and advice. Thank you!

    Russ

    1. I can’t tell you if you have “talent”. I can’t tell you if you’re any good. There are amazingly well-selling writers I can’t stand.
      What I can tell you is that something that keeps pushing you should be written.
      I have close on to forty novels written and out, but the book I’m writing now has waited for 48 years. It needs to come out.
      Now will your novel sell? I can’t tell you that. Because of the Algorithm, if you go indie — and right now I recommend going indie — your second will sell better than your first, and your third better still. So strap in for the long haul.
      And 59 isn’t that old. Heinlein’s career didn’t take its major leap till he was 58. You just cut out the drag of midlist before now.
      Go. Write like you mean it!

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