Skip to content

Mayflies

Now I lost interest in Twitter back when I found out that besides being the crack cocaine of social media (and just as good for you) it was the worst rated for sales/reader conversion. Something like 1 sale per 1000 followers, IIRC.

I’ve got books to write, a life to live, a farm to finish developing. But one the fans brought this bit of twitter-snark about an anthology I was delighted to be included in. A CHRONICLE OF DAVIDS. A chance to be in the same collection as Dave Drake and Dave Weber doesn’t come my way every day.

So this is his priceless (as in you can have it for free) gem (as in one man’s turd is another man’s treasure, especially in North Korea).

And now, a list of short fiction writers published because of their names, and a list of short fiction writers who must never EVER complain about women- or POC-centered anthologies or just wanting “good stories”…

and Barry N. Malzberg for some reason. The N is for Not A David?  

— Nick Ban Nazis Mamatas (@NMamatas) October 17, 2019

Fascinating. Now I honestly have no idea who the hell this ‘Ban Nazis’ fellow is. I assume some kind of dimwitted totalitarian, as they’re the ones who like to ban stuff and groups, usually because they can’t deal with them in any other way. ‘Nazis’ are a subset of those believing in totalitarian ideology (and were very fond of banning and silencing as a way of dealing with competition). So, logically, he’d like to ban himself.

‘Nazi’  is also used as a ‘magic word’ used by those who are too dumb to actually know what it means, but want to be offensive, and there it translates as:  ‘Anyone I disagree with’.  This is common usage by the sort of people who have no idea what Nazism was, and, based on their behavior, would almost certainly have been in support of it, if they’d been around at the time (as in they’d like to ban things and dictate behavior.)

You know, he does have one thing going for him: IMAX level projection.  I’ve heard LOTS of attacks on Anthos for NOT having women, or whatever. The opposite, excluding men, or white males, or heterosexual males… abounds. There are hundreds of them CELEBRATING excluding a large part of the human race, often as their theme.  I’m amused that Mamatas assumes the gender of Daves. I thought that was a deadly sin, punishable by a thousand hysterical twitter shrieks? And as for ‘POC’, that’s another assumption… as ‘David’ is a very common name in much of Africa.

I honestly don’t care. If you want to have a ‘POC’ Anthology, or a one-legged lesbians who identify as pork pies on alternate Thursdays Anthology – go right ahead.  Of course that means that – if you were going to be fair, stopping endless whining about having women or POC or alphabet soup on every anthology’s ToC, unless they’re exclusive to the same people who now demand inclusion. But it’s different when they do it. Shrug. The sales will sort it out.

But I DO want good stories. Partly because I like to read them, and partly because good stories build an audience – which benefits everyone in the field.  I’m mildly bemused by the sort of logic that concludes that having a very common first name (meaning the possible pool of authors (and readers) is way larger than most of the other ‘exclusive’ collections) and headlined by three legendary authors… cannot select ‘good stories’?  Well, ‘ban Nazis’ I guess says it all. Logic was entered in the race, but died long before the start.  A substantial number of the Davids in collection… make a living out of writing.  That is rare in anthologies, and means some people think their work is good. I actually think the editor (David Afsharirad) did a pretty good job, cat herding, and getting full-time pros to contribute stories.  They’re not money-makers at the pro end of the scale. I only did it because he seemed a genuinely nice guy, trying hard, and the bait of being in antho with some of my heroes was great.

To expand: most Anthos are rather like shopping malls. They have an anchor tenant (or two or three) –A well-known and large shop, and the other shops in the mall rely on the public wanting to come to those anchor tenants and seeing them on the way. It’s the same for any successful anthology – where having a known name’s story will sell the collection… and introduce readers to a selection of other authors. Basically a good thing, a bit of pay forward from better known, and it pay for itself, so therefore gets done. At the opposite end of the scale there are ‘thematic’ malls – where no-one knows much about any of the shops but they group a certain product – be it beauty products or D-I-Y or Organic food. That’s the typical ‘Special Interest’ fiction – whether it’s Lesbian fiction or Vampires or Tanks. The point is to… sell books to people with those special interests.  They too benefit from an anchor author or three, and introduce readers with those special interests to writers who provide their kind of stories. If they’re not good stories, but chosen to fulfill some kind other criteria… they’ll hurt the authors in the collection, and the special interest, and the genre as a whole.

This isn’t rocket-science. It’s economics 101. And it’s good for the genre, and a rising tide floats all boats.

Anyway: I have to inform Nick Mamatas that no matter what he thinks I MUST do, I will do exactly as I think best, and likelihood of my paying any attention his commands are roughly on the scale of plausibility of a whiny little mayfly telling an elephant what it MUST do, and being listened to. And like the mayfly I’m sure he’ll get whole cloud of other little mayflies to try and be a nuisance.  (shrug) Mayflies belong to the ephemeroptera.  Their major impact on ecosystems is generally recycling detritus, by eating it.  They can occasionally be annoying if you’re where they’re out in their breeding swarms, in their brief but otherwise pointless emergence. But those swarms really have no noticeable impact on our lives, or at least not one that a windscreen washers can’t deal with.

You see, what is Nick Mamatas going to do enforce his dictate?  He won’t read my books? He already doesn’t. He’ll badmouth them to his little friends, who won’t read my books?  Too late. He’ll tell all his little twitter-swarm not include me on their ToC or invite me as a guest to their cons? David Gerrold did that years ago. He’s going to –unread, make negative critical comments about my books on literary platforms? Damian Walter beat him to that back when CHANGELING’S ISLAND was a Dragon finalist.  He’s going to call me by his various magic words regardless of accuracy: ‘Racist, Nazi homophobe. etc etc.? Irene Gallo did that already, yonks back. He’ll try to deplatform and silence me?  And what else is new (and unsuccessful)?  Or is he going to come along and try and stop me saying exactly what the hell I please by force? Yeah. As they say in the classics: ‘rotsa ruck with that, buddy’.

I suspect he’ll have the twitter equivalent of a toddler’s tantrum in the toy aisle at the supermarket, possibly with his little swarm.  Not my kid (shrug). Ephemeroptera. Perhaps one of these days they’ll figure all they achieve is getting the elephant to drink 2/3 of the puddle (trad sf readers), and stomp the mud that is left into the point where it will evaporate ( where the woke trad publishers and B&N go bust – because they needed that income) before moving on.

That’s the problem the little wokescolds face: rather like the perpetually nagging woman who finds her husband just turns his hearing aid off.  Or, as Sarah put it the other day: we’ve reached tired-of-this-nonsense o’clock – as we increasingly see the general public finally having had enough of it – from ‘extinction rebellion’ to attacking authors.  It’s more likely to make people BUY the book just to piss him and his swarm off.

The zeitgeist has moved, and they haven’t. That’s fairly obvious in everything from Gamergate to Sad Puppies, from Brexit, to President Trump to the Hong Kong protests. They don’t all win – but they were unthinkable at all 10 years back. More is coming.  Zeitgeist doesn’t, most of the time, move fast, but it’s like a heavy freight train on a downgrade.  The only thing that will stop it is a long up-slope (economic in this case IMO, with lots more money.)

I’m not seeing one.

As I was asked: this picture is the link. I get paid a fee if by Amazon if you use it.

99 Comments
  1. naleta #

    I’m one of those who are more likely to buy if I am aware that the wokescolds are objecting. As I buy the Baen bundles, I already have this anthology in my TBR stack. 🙂

    October 21, 2019
    • Yep. If they hate it, I am likely to love it.

      October 21, 2019
    • Yep. I tended to pick up anthologies based on whether or not an author I liked was in it, with the plus of being introduced to authors I haven’t heard of and might like.

      Except that it started to be that the ‘unknown authors’ tended to go with SJ zealot ‘stories’ which were barely disguised scolding. It got to the point that getting a new story from Jim Butcher wasn’t worth the REST of the book; I would’ve rather paid Jim directly for the story.

      October 22, 2019
  2. Locketopus #

    Doing a web search on Mr. Mamatas reveals photographs that look suspiciously old, white, and male.

    Perhaps Mamatas should give up his upcoming Tor publishing slot in favor of a “POC” or a “WOC”. I mean, if he actually believes his own bullshit…

    October 21, 2019
    • What? Look, sacrifices for his claimed principles should made by OTHER people. People he doesn’t like.

      October 21, 2019
  3. Christopher M. Chupik #

    “Now I honestly have no idea who the hell this ‘Ban Nazis’ fellow is.”

    A low-selling horror author whose social media presence is a radioactive waste dump of toxicity, from what I can tell.

    October 21, 2019
    • adventuresfantastic #

      Exactly. And when sales are down, associate your name to virtue signaling and controversy. And kiss any possibility of getting my book-buying dollars goodbye.

      October 21, 2019
      • Christopher M. Chupik #

        From the little bit of read of Mamatas, his fiction is much like his Twitter feed: bitter, profane and unpleasant.

        October 21, 2019
        • Oh, how attractive. We all reflect something of ourselves in our books. In some cases that should make people avoid both

          October 21, 2019
        • I think he regularly attempts to bash Jon Del Arroz; I think. Haven’t been paying attention to the twitter fights lately (busy RL) but wah!mama is the placeholder I have in my head for Mamatas.

          October 22, 2019
    • He is also a puppy kicker from of old. So this is not his first time hammering this drum.

      October 21, 2019
      • What! That’s as surprising as gambling in Rick’s casino.

        October 21, 2019
        • TheOtherSean #

          “Your winnings, sir.”

          October 21, 2019
        • Unpossible, I know. More seriously I remembered the name and googled.

          October 21, 2019
  4. BobtheRegisterredFool #

    The nazis were enlightened peaceful matriarchs. The had socialized medicine, advanced the sciences, and only wanted to reduce the environmental impact of unnecessary humans.

    *spits*

    a) banning is a bullshit course of action. Either you have grounds to wage war on a polity/party, or if they really suck worse than your ideas and you can defeat them in fair argument. b) I’m not persuaded that Nick here is exactly a careful informed judge of what organizations are nazi like and what are not.

    October 21, 2019
    • As I said: Nick and his ilk would likely choose to be Nazis, were they suddenly transported back to then. They stand for all the same things.

      And I think he as less idea than a brick about what organizations are Nazi. It’s a ‘magic word’ to demonize anyone who doesn’t agree with him. Like a scalpel that’s been used for everything including cutting cement sheet – it doesn’t work very well any more. And didn’t do much to the cement sheet.

      October 21, 2019
      • I just read that National Socialists were really popular with Academics based on the vote for Hitler from the students and professoriate at Gottingen (sp?)

        So… No surprise.

        October 21, 2019
  5. TRX #

    > Logic was entered in the race, but died long before the start.

    No, that’s not how “social media” works.

    Take another look at the post. It’s not actually English, it’s just a list of keywords and position statements, like those charts with columns of words you can use to make bafflegab phrases for corporate meetings.

    The purpose of the post isn’t to convey an opinion, it’s virtue signaling. He can use the same basic structure for signaling solidarity with his group on any topic that comes up.

    “Social media” uses words the way monkeys use rocks; they’re for throwing, not for building work.

    October 21, 2019
    • I misread that as “potion statements” and… I’m not really sure I truly misread it.

      October 21, 2019
      • Nope. Truly a bad apple, in the Grimm sense of the story.

        October 21, 2019
      • poison statements…

        October 21, 2019
  6. mrsizer #

    Logic was entered in the race, but died long before the start.

    I’m so stealing this phrase! Maybe changing the end to “…, but died at the starting gun.”

    October 21, 2019
  7. Thing is, Mamatas might have a point, except that there’s a crucial difference between the “Davids” anthology and the “marginalized authors” anthologies that he’s complaining about others complaining about.

    The “Davids” anthology was basically done on a lark and doesn’t take itself that seriously. The “marginalized authors” anthologies all take themselves extremely seriously and are usually supposed to “raise consciousness” and such.

    Of course, that leaves aside the fact that virtually no one has actually complained about anthologies featuring only “marginalized authors.”

    October 21, 2019
    • Not many people bought them either, though. And, generally, because the defining selection characteristic was ‘marginalized’ the selection group of popular successful authors who were also ‘marginalized’ and willing to contribute was always going to be small. And as popular and successful usually equates with ‘good story’ (especially where the author is actively discriminated against by the establishment – like being male, or heterosexual or conservative these days) the chances are their collections are low on ‘good stories’. Whereas if your lead criterion is popular and successful, and you take a subset out of that (be it blondes or women or target shooters) if you have enough stories, you also have to have good entertaining reads.

      October 21, 2019
    • Synova #

      I’ve heard complaints, and probably complained as well, but not because someone had a magazine or anthology with some particular focus, but mostly because either (like the “women destroy” or others) they were meant to stick the straw man in the eye OR because they weren’t focused at all but would be the equivalent of “anyone who’s name isn’t Dave is welcome to submit”. If something really IS focused almost laser-like on who is excluded, that’s a different dynamic from having a fun time with a special volume with a special focus.

      What’s sort of funny is that a few years ago (before I ever heard of the book of Davids) I’d noticed that there seemed to be a lot of authors and artists named Julie, and I thought “Hey, wouldn’t it be fun to have a Book of Julie’s?” It’s arbitrary and silly, sure, but that’s the point. And it certainly doesn’t exclude anyone for other differences… particularly not if it included Julian or variations.

      October 21, 2019
      • Julie Frost #

        There’s me, Julie Pascal, Julie Czerneda…

        That’s a start. Make it so.

        October 22, 2019
    • Christopher M. Chupik #

      I would be fine with a Chris anthology, but I admit I’m biased.

      October 22, 2019
  8. adventuresfantastic #

    “dimwitted totalitarian”

    Dave, please try to refrain from insulting dimwitted totalitarians everywhere.

    David Afsharirad told me about this anthology at a convention a few years ago when it was still an idea he wanted to pitch to Toni. I’ve been waiting for it ever since. Even if that weren’t the case, I would have bought it as a reaction to this tweet.

    October 21, 2019
    • I ENJOY insulting dimwitted totalitarians. I know, it’s a filthy job, but someone has to do it. Why not someone who enjoys it? They may rise above this pathetic individual as a group, but he is one of them.

      October 21, 2019
      • Mary #

        Because it’s lacking in challenge and then you have to go find something new anyway.

        October 21, 2019
      • Well Dave, we have to do something while we living Down Under have to hide from the catastrophic temperatures of 32 degrees C to entertain ourselves, right? I mean, we can’t herd the ‘roos, with the roasting temperatures…

        Twitter is good for occasional amusement.

        (I’ll admit that I actually start getting heatstroked around 32-35 degrees, because I absorb heat faster than most folks and have problems shedding heat. But that doesn’t stop 32C being a pretty normal temp here.)

        October 22, 2019
        • Joe in PNG #

          Note for my fellow yanks- 32C is roughly 90 F.
          It’s a pleasant spring day in Orlando Florida.

          October 22, 2019
          • And usually pretty dry.
            Avi is making fun about it being *gasp* 34C in Melbourne today.

            October 24, 2019
          • adventuresfantastic #

            Or as we say in Texas, October.

            October 24, 2019
            • Except today, when it is 26 and blowing snow. But it’s a dry cold. 😛

              October 24, 2019
              • Meanwhile, 360 kilometers away… but still in Texas… that’s 48F (9C) and raining. It’s a wet cold. I want to be in your part of Texas today!

                October 24, 2019
  9. “That’s the problem the little wokescolds face: rather like the perpetually nagging woman who finds her husband just turns his hearing aid off. Or, as Sarah put it the other day: we’ve reached tired-of-this-nonsense o’clock – as we increasingly see the general public finally having had enough of it – from ‘extinction rebellion’ to attacking authors. It’s more likely to make people BUY the book just to piss him and his swarm off.”

    Two things. First, I picked that anthology up at the bookstore two days ago, looked at it and put is down again because of the shitty cover. (Sorry Dave, Baen didn’t do you guys any favors there.) But I didn’t notice there was a Dave Weber and a Dave Freer story, because shitty cover. I got the latest Neal Asher instead. ($33.00CDN for a large format paperback, it seems McMillan is absolutely determined to go out of business ASAP.)

    So I -will- be going out and getting the hardcover, today, specifically to piss this Mamtas guy off. And the camel too, floppy has been waxing lyrical and collecting all sorts of comments all over the place to show how bad and eeevile the Puppies still are. [f- off, floppy.] Unlike twitter screechers, I’m willing to pay money.

    Second: There’s an uprising going on in Holland right now, and -nobody- knows about it. The only reason I know about it is somebody left a comment on my blog.

    https://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2019/10/12-months-of-legal-weed-already.html?showComment=1571536194481#c7002236693709092708

    Looks like the Greens passed some kind of nitrogen restriction which basically ends farming in Holland, so all the farmers drove their tractors down to the provincial parliament houses and quite literally kicked in the front doors. The government called out the cops AND the Army, but the farmers went anyway. Tractors are big, right?

    What’s very interesting here is the TOTAL news blackout outside of Holland. The link in the comment goes to some random dude’s twitter account, showing that twitter is good for something at the moment, getting around the Lamestream Media.

    The other interesting thing is that the Dutch citizenry -support- the massive traffic backups and tractors driving around downtown. They’re standing on the sides of the highway cheering.

    This has been going on since October 1st, and there was a really big invasion of The Hague on October 14th. A sea of tractors on the front lawn. Y’all didn’t hear a peep.

    What have we all been hearing about since October 1st? Extinction Rebellion and Gretta Thunberg the Holy Virgin. What’s happening to Extinction Rebellion is they’re getting punched out when they try to stop subway trains or block traffic.

    My reading of Canadian citizenry is we passed “tired of it” roughly two years ago. Today there is a Federal election (vote early, avoid the rush!) so I guess we will see if I’m dreaming later tonight. Tell you one thing, there are very few election signs which indicates to me that people don’t want anyone to know who they’re supporting. There are quite a few “DUMP TRUDEAU” signs around and about, something that I’ve never really seen before in a federal election. Usually its dump whoever the Conservative is, usually on a lawn with an NDP sign. Now we see dump the Liberal, and no other sign. People are pissed.

    But whatever, the mere fact that a humorous book like “Anthology of Daves” got a smear on social media is indicative of the desperation in some quarters to find something to complain about. They are on the wane, and they know it.

    October 21, 2019
    • I am with you on the cover. And also: Baen, even as a semi-trad charges too much for the e-book version of titles like this. It’s kind of a “gamble” book. Time to download a copy anyway.

      But bonus note: A major (one of the world’s largest) library system is boycotting MacMillan and urging other libraries to do the same AND to prioritize e-book sellers willing to play fair with public libraries.

      https://www.librarytechnology.org/pr/24656

      Took them long enough to join me 🙂

      October 21, 2019
      • That is what the Baen book bundles are for. A book like this might not be worth seven dollars, but it’s almost certainly worth three.

        October 22, 2019
    • TRX #

      I suspect a lot of covers get that simplified overly-cartoony look when the covers are simplified to make some kind of sense when shrunk down to a 3/4×2/4″ icon on Amazon.

      Unfortunately, when zoomed larger or on a Real Paper Book(tm), the message they’re sending is “run away!”

      October 22, 2019
    • Somewhat tangential, but the nagging and scolding is deliberate, and a setup.

      Example in the video this guy is talking about (and I completely disagree with him about not fighting back.)

      October 22, 2019
      • Fighting back… against a woman you’re dumb enough to be in a relationship with… and there’s kids…

        … you’re not going to win there. Nuh uh.

        The kid in the video is pretty well screwed. He is stuck in a no-win situation. His sole way out is to get up and walk out of the house, get in the car and go someplace else. The woman is throwing shit at him and hitting him. He needs to get out.

        See, one of the problems with being a Man and not a kid is that you’re not allowed to hit girls. Even when they’re evil. Even when they’re hitting you. Even when they’re performing psychological warfare on you and trying to ruin your life. Its a Rule of Western Civilization. Its not fair, its not even smart sometimes, but it is still a Rule.

        That’s why Rule One of martial arts is “walk away.” Somebody is up in your face? Walk away. They follow you? Run away. There is no honor in fighting with idiots.

        Time to LEAVE the bitch to her own devices for a week or so, and see if she wants to knock it off. Hard on the kids, but not as hard as daddy going to jail because mommy is a hateful, fight-starting moron.

        [Right now I can hear some woman, probably Bonnie McDaniels, shrieking that all the boy has to do is get up and help with dinner. Just knuckle under and everything will be fine. Sorry, you harpy, it doesn’t work like that.]

        October 23, 2019
        • IIRC, the streaming was supposed to be part of his source of income besides his day job as well as his de-stress. Heard on the grapevine was that the two should never have gotten together, but the woman was a THOT and seduced a nerd for income purposes; then became… well, abusive. The comments note that it’s Daddy the kids call to (and only when he got up to get her out of the room), not Mum, and it doesn’t sound like him actively attacking her in rage or anger, but trying to get her to calm the fuck down and get her away from his computer, and that it seemed to me he was likely blocking blows/trying to restrain her from attacking him hard while she screamed for the camera. An astute viewer noted that when one of the kids wailed for him, he very calmly replied to her in reassuring tones. The conclusion was the woman was actively setting him up for it, hamming it up for the camera and audience on the stream. (Apparently, most of the people watching the video I linked wanted to hit *her*, for being such a rancid cunt.)

          The problem with walking away with children involved is that the woman is very likely to take it out on the kids; and she may have displayed behavior that indicated such to him in the past. He may have had poor judgment in choosing who he stuck his dick into, but he seemed to care for the kids at the very least.

          The sad thing is, I know of someone from my gaming days who had a one night stand with a prostitute, and apparently he got her pregnant (and later it was proven that the kid was his) and as soon as he found out he straightened out his life, got a steady job, etc. He would be there, 100%, full Dad, to the child, even though he figured out later on that the THOT had wanted a steady meal ticket and was setting him up for divorce so she could get him for child support and even tried to leave him for another guy (my friend didn’t stop her) and she came crawling back when the ‘other guy’ didn’t want her with the kid. The few times he would be online to game she would be screaming at him to get off the computer, and the few times we heard from him it sounded like he was the hands on parent and the kid was largely neglected when he was at work.

          But unlike this guy, he never laid a hand on her, not even in self defense, no matter what outrageous thing she tried. He was playing a long run waiting game, to see if she’d eventually get tired of it and leave -without the boy. Haven’t heard from him in literal years so I don’t know how he is, but he loves his son.

          October 24, 2019
  10. “It’s more likely to make people BUY the book just to piss him and his swarm off.”

    Two things. First, I picked that anthology up at the bookstore two days ago, looked at it and put is down again because of the shitty cover. (Sorry Dave, Baen didn’t do you guys any favors there.) But I didn’t notice there was a Dave Weber and a Dave Freer story, because shitty cover. I got the latest Neal Asher instead. ($33.00CDN for a large format paperback, it seems McMillan is absolutely determined to go out of business ASAP.)

    So I -will- be going out and getting the hardcover, today, specifically to piss this Mamtas guy off. And the camel too, floppy has been waxing lyrical and collecting all sorts of comments all over the place to show how bad and eeevile the Puppies still are. [f- off, floppy.] Unlike twitter screechers, I’m willing to pay money.

    Second: There’s an uprising going on in Holland right now, and -nobody- knows about it. The only reason I know about it is somebody left a comment on my blog.

    Looks like the Greens passed some kind of nitrogen restriction which basically ends farming in Holland, so all the farmers drove their tractors down to the provincial parliament houses and quite literally kicked in the front doors. The government called out the cops AND the Army, but the farmers went anyway. Tractors are big, right?

    What’s very interesting here is the TOTAL news blackout outside of Holland. The link in the comment goes to some random dude’s twitter account, showing that twitter is good for something at the moment, getting around the Lamestream Media.

    The other interesting thing is that the Dutch citizenry -support- the massive traffic backups and tractors driving around downtown. They’re standing on the sides of the highway cheering.

    This has been going on since October 1st, and there was a really big invasion of The Hague on October 14th. A sea of tractors on the front lawn. Y’all didn’t hear a peep.

    What have we all been hearing about since October 1st? Extinction Rebellion and Gretta Thunberg the Holy Virgin. What’s happening to Extinction Rebellion is they’re getting punched out when they try to stop subway trains or block traffic.

    My reading of Canadian citizenry is we passed “tired of it” roughly two years ago. Today there is a Federal election (vote early, avoid the rush!) so I guess we will see if I’m dreaming later tonight. Tell you one thing, there are very few election signs which indicates to me that people don’t want anyone to know who they’re supporting. There are quite a few “DUMP TRUDEAU” signs around and about, something that I’ve never really seen before in a federal election. Usually its dump whoever the Conservative is, usually on a lawn with an NDP sign. Now we see dump the Liberal, and no other sign. People are pissed.

    But whatever, the mere fact that a humorous book like “Anthology of Daves” got a smear on social media is indicative of the desperation in some quarters to find something to complain about. They are on the wane, and they know it.

    October 21, 2019
  11. elainethomp #

    the blog Legal Insurrection had something about the events in Holland a couple days ago. That’s the ONLY thing I’ve seen.

    October 21, 2019
    • I saw it someplace last week.

      October 21, 2019
      • Jane Meyerhofer #

        Also WUWT has Dutch tractor pictures …

        October 21, 2019
      • But like the yellow vests in France, the media has done their level best to silence and deplatform anyone their masters deem not on narrative. It seems worse in the EU than elsewhere. That means when it flies apart (it will) it’ll be worse in the EU than elsewhere. pressure cookers work like that.

        October 21, 2019
        • For about 10 years now I’ve been predicting the Euros will march everybody they don’t like into the ocean, or over the suddenly extremely fortified border with Turkey. If there even is a Turkey and not a smoking hole that glows in the dark.

          Because that’s how they do shit over there. Suddenly, and out of all proportion.

          October 21, 2019
          • Zero to Jackboots in around 2 seconds. Slow fuse big boom.

            October 22, 2019
  12. Roger Ritter #

    And with all that, this Mamatas fellow completely missed the fact that this book is just another line of attack by the International Dave Conspiracy to take over the world.

    Check out the Narbonic webcomic for more details: http://narbonic.com/comic/february-4-9-2002/

    October 21, 2019
    • There is no Int’l Dave Conspiracy. You will not be visited by a Dave Squad looking for information. Please remain calm. There is no Int’l Dave Conspiracy.

      October 21, 2019
      • And no collusion and no secret dave-wave radios…

        October 21, 2019
      • snelson134 #

        Fnord.

        October 22, 2019
    • Evenstar #

      Narbonic! Wow that take me back.

      October 22, 2019
      • BobtheRegisterredFool #

        Skin Horse is just finishing up.

        October 22, 2019
  13. David Carrico #

    And Buy the Book is exactly what happened. See Christopher Ruocchio’s FB post about it. Hilarious. And as another of the authors in the book, I greatly savor the irony that all Matamas managed to accomplish was to stimulate more sales and make us more money. 🙂

    October 21, 2019
    • A LOT more sales, from the pic Larry posted recently.

      October 21, 2019
    • Part of me wants to do something to provoke the VileProgs, just so I’ll get a sales boost. The rest of me doesn’t want to get fired from Day Job.

      Congrats on the boost! 😀

      October 21, 2019
    • It’s interesting that twitter is a dismal sales feed for promoting your own work (Matamas can’t sell his own work there) but dislike of a tweeter (or is that a twittii?) can sell a lot.

      October 21, 2019
  14. I set up a Twitter account, but never did very much with it. I started as a long-form blogger, and Twitter just seemed like time-sink. Bitchy one-liners? Not my thing.
    I keep the account because there is another Celia Hayes author, and I am just b*tchy enough to want to keep her from having it. (Really, she should have done a search and realized that her author name was already in use?)

    October 21, 2019
  15. Christopher M. Chupik #

    A hilarious review of some of Mamatas’s work: http://stjoshi.org/review_mamatas.html?fbclid=IwAR3V1t393SMjoMT2FbXAuCaM_Y4dhbMALSq5AFC5Trl0G772kvcpmuYrgKE

    October 21, 2019
    • Dude didn’t think much of Mr. Mamatas. “Languid affectation of hipster sophistication” is pretty harsh. Probably fair though.

      October 21, 2019
  16. Synova #

    See now, what Nick ought to do is find a bunch of people and pitch an alternate-Christmas anthology called something about All The Saint Nicks, or a sci-fi alternate reality anthology like Nicks of Time…

    October 21, 2019
    • Synova, you can’t mean Nicky Mamatas should go do some actual [gasp!] WORK? C’est impossible!

      October 21, 2019
    • No someone else should do it… and not bother to ask him. Because they want good stories, and the name doesn’t make up for it. ;/

      October 21, 2019
  17. Clint #

    This was REALLY hard to find on Amazon. I clicked over without rechecking the title from this post. “Daves anthology” and “Davids anthology” didn’t find it. It didn’t appear on David Weber’s Amazon page. It didn’t appear on Dave Freer’s Amazon page. I finally had to click back here to find the title. Even “a chronicle of daves” didn’t pick it up.

    October 21, 2019
    • And after you buy it, Amazon won’t download it. I am going to have to.gimp my way upstairs and do the cable to computer transfer.

      Stupid Golden Age of Information problems.

      October 21, 2019
    • Apologies. I’ll post a link

      October 21, 2019
  18. Robin Munn #

    I also got curious to know why Barry N. Malzberg was included, so I did a quick Google search. Less than two minutes of searching brought me the information that Barry Malzberg’s story was named “The House of David” and is set in the Hammer’s Slammers universe created by David Drake. Which means it fits into the anthology’s theme just as well as the story by Avram Davidson, and IMHO better than the story by Hank Davis. I should note that I’m writing this comment having not (yet) read the anthology, so don’t take what I say here as a reflection on the quality of anyone’s writing. 🙂

    October 22, 2019
  19. Dennis Moss #

    Just bought the book. I’ve been away from sci-fi for a while because all the stuff I was starting to read was stupid dystopian crap about impossible teenage societies or was woke idiocy. The last sci-fi I started to read I pretty much threw away in the first chapter because an emergency during a Mars exploration had the female team leader had a male subordinate check to make sure that “toxic masculinity” wasn’t the reason he wanted to respond. I’ve been enjoying historical novels since then.

    October 22, 2019
    • good grief. I guarantee my books will have no mention of ‘toxic masculinity’ – unless it is to mock the shit out the entire idea. I see masculinity as a net positive.

      October 23, 2019
      • Maybe. “Toxic masculinity” does exist–we’ve all known that guy who thinks that the definition of “real man” is “chest-thumping domineering jerk.”
        The problem is that its sister, “poisonous femininity,” is rarely acknowledged, and it’s definition has been expanded by wokescolds to include behavior that guards against it. Which is stupid.

        October 23, 2019
  20. By now the cleavage that separates those who demand obeisance to the currently fashionable political mantras on the Left from those of us who just want good fiction should be unbridgeable. The question on my mind is how long (and how many bankruptcies) it will take to get what remains of “conventional” publishing to step back from the abyss. They’ve already taken some severe body blows. How much more can they endure?

    October 22, 2019
    • TheOtherSean #

      What makes you think they will step back? Have you considered the possibility that “conventional publishing” concerns are being run as tax dodges for conglomerates, and as a means for influence peddling via ridiculous book contracts that have no possibility of earning out?

      October 22, 2019
      • I suppose that’s possible. It’s not inconsistent with the sludge they promote. I just find it a strange way to run a business. According to my wife, a professional accountant, maximizing income is always more profitable than maneuvering for tax dodges. Then again, her clients are all orders of Catholic nuns, which suggests a particular perspective, doesn’t it?

        October 22, 2019
      • “Have you considered the possibility that “conventional publishing” concerns are being run as tax dodges for conglomerates, and as a means for influence peddling via ridiculous book contracts that have no possibility of earning out?”

        I certainly have – because it makes tons of sense to me, considering all those political memoirs that wind up in the bin at the Dollar Tree six months later…

        October 22, 2019
        • snelson134 #

          Got to have some way for unions to launder campaign contributions, bribes, etc…. although I understand GoFundMe is how the woke pay off accusers of Supreme Court Justices these days.

          October 22, 2019
    • They’re selling the family silver, Francis. They’ve been digitizing the backlist and doing Audio. They get 70% and pay the author 20%. A lot of older authors are not even aware of the digitzation or the rates of pay, and may well not have contracted that in. They go ahead anyway. If the author even knows about it… if they get caught doing it without the rights (and it has happened) they settle, with non-disclosure.

      This has kept them afloat, but… it’s not a deathless resource.

      October 22, 2019
      • That can’t be entirely legal, can it?

        October 23, 2019
        • No. It’s not. There have been a few cases where we’ve heard about authors discovering this and suing… and suddenly the story goes dark: Ergo it’s been settled in a hurry with non-disclosure clauses. I’ve run into mention of two, and I am not that connected. There are enough still popular books where the publisher can cash in and probably never be questioned for this just to be the cost of doing business.

          October 23, 2019
          • Sheesh. After 67 years I thought I knew the depth of the well of human venality. Innovation never ceases, I suppose.

            October 23, 2019
            • I gather the movie and music business are worse, but publishing is pretty well rotten to the core too. I could tell a few horror stories, some of my own experience, many by heresay. The story of the guy battling along on small sales, and finally going on holiday… and finding the translation he never was told about and never got paid for… was a bestseller, there…

              October 23, 2019
              • Great God in heaven. Thank you, Dave. This has been an education.

                Apropos of the unapproved-translation business: a few years back a gentleman from Holland politely and very humbly asked me if I’d permit him to translate two of my books into Farsi (Persian). I’m a nobody, and nobodies are rather easy to rip off, so I was greatly surprised both by the offer and by his openness and honesty. (Yes, I agreed to it.) That supposedly above-board publishing houses should do such things to well known, conventionally published writers behind their backs is shocking beyond the power of the word to express. It deserves its own entry in the Necronomicon.

                October 23, 2019
                • I agreed to let someone translate one of mine into Armenian. No money – tiny population – but why not? I’d never sell the armenian rights anyway. 🙂

                  October 23, 2019
                  • Armenian? Well, perhaps there isn’t much money there. But watch out for a Ukrainian bootleg. They’re big consumers of SF, from what I’ve been told by an emigre, and they’ve shown a considerable degree of appreciation for the efforts of Anglospheric writers — both in English and in Ukrainian. Seriously.

                    October 23, 2019
              • TonyT #

                Google “Hollywood accounting”, and prepare to be disgusted….

                October 23, 2019
              • Mary #

                I was on a blog where two authors found out about unauthorized translations. There was a great flurry of people telling them about different countries before they went to the lawyer up stage.

                October 23, 2019
      • snelson134 #

        “This has kept them afloat, but… it’s not a deathless resource.”

        Actually, Dave it probably is to some degree. What are the odds that the heirs and assigns are more aware of what dad / mom / granma and Granpa / etc. actually signed for… at the time, rather than what they are being told while coping with a family member’s death.

        October 23, 2019
        • Well, the market for older books (or any book) is finite. Eventually it slows down, and, unless you have new ones just as popular in the pipeline… it slow to a trickle. True of my own older books.

          October 23, 2019
  21. John C. Randolph #

    “‘David’ is a very common name in much of Africa.”

    And it’s even more common among Jews. Leftards have been quite blatant in displaying their Judenhass lately.

    October 22, 2019
    • Joe in PNG #

      It’s also seen in various Arabic cultures as “Daoud”- or variations thereof.

      October 22, 2019
    • Christopher M. Chupik #

      Not to mention David Afsharirad is Iranian-American . . .

      October 22, 2019

Comments are closed.

%d bloggers like this: